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		<title>By: Volkher Hofmann</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arnold,

nice to see you around here again. It&#039;s been a while. My site has been a &quot;has-been site&quot;, an &quot;on-and-off&quot; site, has been neglected at times and was virtually dead in the water again and again. That&#039;s life. My life, in fact.

I can understand your frustration with this (rather brief) post of mine in regard to the &quot;last recordings of Ray Brown.&quot; I admit I have been negligent in fixing this post as to the many remarks you sent me or left here in regard to this issue. I also truly appreciate your input, which I have hoped I could rope in to lead to YOU writing about the issues debated here (see below).

Here&#039;s my take:

a) This is an age-old post which hasn&#039;t been read by anyone since January of 2008 (!). My stats tell me so. All the visitors since that date were ones looking for illegal rips of that trio album.

b) I have had some posts on Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown, Monty Alexander (who I&#039;m not such a huge fan of all the time) and, especially, Nils Henning up my sleeves for all too long which were going to straighten out matters in more detail.

See, I&#039;ve seen Nils Henning live at least 100 times, probably more, and when I lived in DK and frequented the &quot;Montmartre Jazz Club&quot; (in its second incarnation, which had all but left behind its original jazz roots), and later, when I was a regular at the &quot;Copenhagen Jazz House&quot;, I had many a chance to sit down and talk with him. In a way, Nils was my &quot;hero&quot;, if that is at all the appropriate word. I often saw him more as a father figure with the relaxed, straight-ahead and absolutely gentleman-like demeanor he positively radiated. Believe me, Nils told me some things that had nothing to do with music whatsoever and that still resonate - and in a way guide - my life today.

I&#039;m not kidding when I say that the day he passed away was one of the saddest days of my life. He was simply a great man who should not only be remembered for his stunning artistry, but especially for his way of putting complete strangers at ease, for giving invaluable help and information and for being, well, himself. He was the epitome of the Danish term &quot;hygge&quot;, which I&#039;m sure you know the translation of.

To be quite honest, what I&#039;ve written so far on the various personalities and artists mentioned,is unpublishable, especially because - in the case of Oscar Peterson, for example - there are so many damn detractors around who &quot;hate(d) his guts&quot; (I do believe that is an appropriate summary of some of those more radical sentiments). I, for one, have always been a huge and - in many cases - forgiving fan, simply because Oscar Peterson brought so much life, enjoyment and, yes, artistry into my life.

On top of that, I&#039;m usually not knowledgeable enough to put into words what I hear (musically), aside from an emotional response. Still, the future will most likely see me try.

Arnold, right now I can only offer you to sit down, write up a post (any length you like) on Ray Brown&#039;s final engagements that you seem to know a lot more about than 99.9% of this planet, and I&#039;ll post it here. I would be very interested in a more detailed depiction of those final sessions, concerts and events, and I know the rest of the jazz world would be as well.

How about it?

Finally, please do not forget one thing: This site is - more often than not - a release valve for me after 16 or more hours of 7-days-a-week work, and I often &quot;hammer out&quot; instinctive responses to things I like, garnish them with at times horrendous style (and more silly adjectives than you can shake a stick at), and I often don&#039;t give any post a second thought after it has gone live. When I posted on that trio CD, I did so after it had gotten virtually constant airplay around here. I loved it, let people know about it, did a three-second check on the Net of what (wrong) info there was ... and that was it.

Suffice it to say that Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown, Ed Thigpen (my absolute &quot;hero&quot;; call me &quot;fanish&quot;, and you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head) and Nils-Henning (I&#039;m putting these four individuals into one basket for a reason) made my life a lot more joyful and exciting.

Additionally, as a drummer, I am the world&#039;s biggest fan of Jeff Hamilton who I believe is and can be the only true successor to Ed Thigpen&#039;s artful mastery of the drums.

I can definitely tell that you simply must be on my side of the fence on these latter sentiments as well.

Best,

Volkher

P.S.: Don&#039;t hesitate to contact me via my site&#039;s contact form. I&#039;ll get right back to you. Promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arnold,</p>
<p>nice to see you around here again. It's been a while. My site has been a "has-been site", an "on-and-off" site, has been neglected at times and was virtually dead in the water again and again. That's life. My life, in fact.</p>
<p>I can understand your frustration with this (rather brief) post of mine in regard to the "last recordings of Ray Brown." I admit I have been negligent in fixing this post as to the many remarks you sent me or left here in regard to this issue. I also truly appreciate your input, which I have hoped I could rope in to lead to YOU writing about the issues debated here (see below).</p>
<p>Here's my take:</p>
<p>a) This is an age-old post which hasn't been read by anyone since January of 2008 (!). My stats tell me so. All the visitors since that date were ones looking for illegal rips of that trio album.</p>
<p>b) I have had some posts on Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown, Monty Alexander (who I'm not such a huge fan of all the time) and, especially, Nils Henning up my sleeves for all too long which were going to straighten out matters in more detail.</p>
<p>See, I've seen Nils Henning live at least 100 times, probably more, and when I lived in DK and frequented the "Montmartre Jazz Club" (in its second incarnation, which had all but left behind its original jazz roots), and later, when I was a regular at the "Copenhagen Jazz House", I had many a chance to sit down and talk with him. In a way, Nils was my "hero", if that is at all the appropriate word. I often saw him more as a father figure with the relaxed, straight-ahead and absolutely gentleman-like demeanor he positively radiated. Believe me, Nils told me some things that had nothing to do with music whatsoever and that still resonate - and in a way guide - my life today.</p>
<p>I'm not kidding when I say that the day he passed away was one of the saddest days of my life. He was simply a great man who should not only be remembered for his stunning artistry, but especially for his way of putting complete strangers at ease, for giving invaluable help and information and for being, well, himself. He was the epitome of the Danish term "hygge", which I'm sure you know the translation of.</p>
<p>To be quite honest, what I've written so far on the various personalities and artists mentioned,is unpublishable, especially because - in the case of Oscar Peterson, for example - there are so many damn detractors around who "hate(d) his guts" (I do believe that is an appropriate summary of some of those more radical sentiments). I, for one, have always been a huge and - in many cases - forgiving fan, simply because Oscar Peterson brought so much life, enjoyment and, yes, artistry into my life.</p>
<p>On top of that, I'm usually not knowledgeable enough to put into words what I hear (musically), aside from an emotional response. Still, the future will most likely see me try.</p>
<p>Arnold, right now I can only offer you to sit down, write up a post (any length you like) on Ray Brown's final engagements that you seem to know a lot more about than 99.9% of this planet, and I'll post it here. I would be very interested in a more detailed depiction of those final sessions, concerts and events, and I know the rest of the jazz world would be as well.</p>
<p>How about it?</p>
<p>Finally, please do not forget one thing: This site is - more often than not - a release valve for me after 16 or more hours of 7-days-a-week work, and I often "hammer out" instinctive responses to things I like, garnish them with at times horrendous style (and more silly adjectives than you can shake a stick at), and I often don't give any post a second thought after it has gone live. When I posted on that trio CD, I did so after it had gotten virtually constant airplay around here. I loved it, let people know about it, did a three-second check on the Net of what (wrong) info there was ... and that was it.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say that Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown, Ed Thigpen (my absolute "hero"; call me "fanish", and you've hit the nail on the head) and Nils-Henning (I'm putting these four individuals into one basket for a reason) made my life a lot more joyful and exciting.</p>
<p>Additionally, as a drummer, I am the world's biggest fan of Jeff Hamilton who I believe is and can be the only true successor to Ed Thigpen's artful mastery of the drums.</p>
<p>I can definitely tell that you simply must be on my side of the fence on these latter sentiments as well.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volkher</p>
<p>P.S.: Don't hesitate to contact me via my site's contact form. I'll get right back to you. Promise.</p>
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		<title>By: arnold van kampen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Last Recordings of Ray Brown ????

Dear Volkher every time I read this stupid things about this Telarc cd of Ray Brown,Russell Malone and Monty Alexander I get angry.
Earlier I wrote on other pages of yours that Ray&#039;s very last trio was certainly NOT with Monty Alexander but with that fine pianoplayer Larry Fuller and Karriem Riggins.
I contacted Telarc about this, but they said: &quot;We have no recordings of that trio!&quot;
Well I think that fact gives you not the right to mess up with the truth.
Only months before Ray suddenly died during a nap after playing golf, he did a European Tour and one of the stops was a splendid concert at the Jazz Festival in Bern, Schwitzerland on May 3, 2002.
So if nobody can find recordings of this splendid trio, maybe they should bring out this entire concert.
I have this on DVD (fine picture) so it could be released both as DVD and/or CD.
During this period Monty Alexander had his own trio with Bobby Thomas Jr. and Hassan Shakour, and was recorded on DVD in the New Morning in Paris,in fine shape.
Ray Brown was always eager on getting fine pianists and even asked his life-long friend and &quot;blood-brother&quot; Oscar Peterson about this.
So when Ray went on the road again, after the L.A.4, he first had Monty on the 88 keys.
Monty was followed by Gene Harris, who was semi-retired at that time.
Gene was followed by Benny Green, and after that Geoff Keezer was in the Ray Brown Trio.
Larry Fuller played in the Jeff Hamilton Trio and Ray stole him away, when he needed another pianist.
Jeff found another fine pianist in Tamir Hendelman.
So you could say there is some &quot;inner-circle&quot; headed during that time by Ray Brown and Oscar Peterson.
These giants used the talents of a younger generation: Monty Alexander, John Clayton and Jeff Hamilton, but also were mentors.
When Oscar and Ray had their &quot;legendary&quot; reunion trio, from 1989 to 1993, this trio with Herb Ellis on guitar was backed by Bobby Durham first and later Jeff Hamilton.
During the time Monty had severe problems (his wife died) Ray needed another pianist and Oscar let Ray listen to this fine record of Gene Harris &quot;At the Otter Crest&quot;.
Ray persuaded Gene to join his trio, that first had Mickey Roker on board, who had also played in the Oscar Peterson Trio.

However I really think you should split up the careers of Ray Brown and Monty Alexander.
Both had their own careers and only for a short period Monty was in Ray&#039;s Trio.
Worth mentioning are of course the recording of The Quartet, led by Milt Jackson and Ray Brown, with Monty Alexander and Mickey Roker.
I think there are at least four cd&#039;s from that group, and most certainly two from an earlier period when Monty first joined Ray and &quot;Bags&quot;.
But in my hughe collection I also have fine recordings of the Ray Brown Trio, with Gene Harris and Mickey Roker, joined by Milt Jackson.
In your essay you also mentioned Ulf Wakenius, who was in the very last Oscar Peterson Quartet.
Although I agree with what you said about my dear friend Ray, I have to bring up that talented Dane: Niels-Henning Oersted Pedersen, who was most certainly also a member of this &quot;inner-circle&quot; group and the fastest gun in town.
Ray demonstrated me once, how NHOP could play this fast.
&quot;A normal bassplayer uses two fingers to play the strings, while
 &quot;The Viking&quot; used four.&quot;
And speaking of &quot;normal&quot; players, did you know that Oscar Peterson had this big hands, he could easily reach 12 keys?

Although most of these giants are no longer with us, I think we have to pass their musical legacy to a younger generation.

Arnold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Last Recordings of Ray Brown ????</p>
<p>Dear Volkher every time I read this stupid things about this Telarc cd of Ray Brown,Russell Malone and Monty Alexander I get angry.<br />
Earlier I wrote on other pages of yours that Ray's very last trio was certainly NOT with Monty Alexander but with that fine pianoplayer Larry Fuller and Karriem Riggins.<br />
I contacted Telarc about this, but they said: "We have no recordings of that trio!"<br />
Well I think that fact gives you not the right to mess up with the truth.<br />
Only months before Ray suddenly died during a nap after playing golf, he did a European Tour and one of the stops was a splendid concert at the Jazz Festival in Bern, Schwitzerland on May 3, 2002.<br />
So if nobody can find recordings of this splendid trio, maybe they should bring out this entire concert.<br />
I have this on DVD (fine picture) so it could be released both as DVD and/or CD.<br />
During this period Monty Alexander had his own trio with Bobby Thomas Jr. and Hassan Shakour, and was recorded on DVD in the New Morning in Paris,in fine shape.<br />
Ray Brown was always eager on getting fine pianists and even asked his life-long friend and "blood-brother" Oscar Peterson about this.<br />
So when Ray went on the road again, after the L.A.4, he first had Monty on the 88 keys.<br />
Monty was followed by Gene Harris, who was semi-retired at that time.<br />
Gene was followed by Benny Green, and after that Geoff Keezer was in the Ray Brown Trio.<br />
Larry Fuller played in the Jeff Hamilton Trio and Ray stole him away, when he needed another pianist.<br />
Jeff found another fine pianist in Tamir Hendelman.<br />
So you could say there is some "inner-circle" headed during that time by Ray Brown and Oscar Peterson.<br />
These giants used the talents of a younger generation: Monty Alexander, John Clayton and Jeff Hamilton, but also were mentors.<br />
When Oscar and Ray had their "legendary" reunion trio, from 1989 to 1993, this trio with Herb Ellis on guitar was backed by Bobby Durham first and later Jeff Hamilton.<br />
During the time Monty had severe problems (his wife died) Ray needed another pianist and Oscar let Ray listen to this fine record of Gene Harris "At the Otter Crest".<br />
Ray persuaded Gene to join his trio, that first had Mickey Roker on board, who had also played in the Oscar Peterson Trio.</p>
<p>However I really think you should split up the careers of Ray Brown and Monty Alexander.<br />
Both had their own careers and only for a short period Monty was in Ray's Trio.<br />
Worth mentioning are of course the recording of The Quartet, led by Milt Jackson and Ray Brown, with Monty Alexander and Mickey Roker.<br />
I think there are at least four cd's from that group, and most certainly two from an earlier period when Monty first joined Ray and "Bags".<br />
But in my hughe collection I also have fine recordings of the Ray Brown Trio, with Gene Harris and Mickey Roker, joined by Milt Jackson.<br />
In your essay you also mentioned Ulf Wakenius, who was in the very last Oscar Peterson Quartet.<br />
Although I agree with what you said about my dear friend Ray, I have to bring up that talented Dane: Niels-Henning Oersted Pedersen, who was most certainly also a member of this "inner-circle" group and the fastest gun in town.<br />
Ray demonstrated me once, how NHOP could play this fast.<br />
"A normal bassplayer uses two fingers to play the strings, while<br />
 "The Viking" used four."<br />
And speaking of "normal" players, did you know that Oscar Peterson had this big hands, he could easily reach 12 keys?</p>
<p>Although most of these giants are no longer with us, I think we have to pass their musical legacy to a younger generation.</p>
<p>Arnold.</p>
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